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Why NUKEMAP isn't on Google Maps anymore (2019) (https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com)

132 points by fanf2 4 days ago | 30 comments | View on ycombinator

jmuguy 4 days ago |

I came so close to getting our app off of Google Maps a few months ago, we'd be saving literally thousands a month. But the "look" of the map from open street map, map tiler, etc was deemed too different and the team was scared it would negatively impact our users. The Maps API is definitely getting worse, and the pricing setup seems like it was cooked up by someone from Microsoft. Also Maplibre and its various wrappers are so much nicer to work it.

Photogrammaton 4 days ago |

I've been following Alex Wellerstein off and on for a few years now, since I discovered that he was a science adviser for a crazed nuclear-history TV series called Manh(a)ttan, so I read this post about NUKEMAP when it originally appeared. I wonder whether the situation with Google Maps is any different now. I'm not a developer, so I don't need to know. I'm just curious.

ProofHouse 3 days ago |

That map pricing change stole literally months of my life having to rip out google from an app I spend months building it into. F Google

mystraline 4 days ago |

Since then, Open Street Maps is self-hostable and supports all of these calls you'd need to remake this.

And no throwing $1500/month at google for what amounts to 3 colored circles on a map.

wcallahan 2 days ago |

I do a lot of maps API calls, and found I get better results (and can save money) by using multiple providers.

So I use Apple Maps, Mapbox, OpenStreetMap, and Google Maps… sometimes to check the results with multiple providers, and sometimes to divvy up the free allotment.

For anyone using Java/Kotlin/JVM, I made an SDK for Apple Maps: https://github.com/WilliamAGH/apple-maps-java which is one with a generous included tier.

rvnx 4 days ago |

Wait until someone writes a script doing a loop or auto-refresh and you get charged 100'000 USD. For such, Google is very dangerous (lot of nightmare stories), you have to avoid as much as possible their public API services.

DonHopkins 3 days ago |

Google Maps is just Spam spelled backwards.

EdwardDiego 3 days ago |

I never knew about MISSILEMAP, and am happy to report that no Russian missiles, not even the Satan II appear to have the range to reach New Zealand.

...ohhhh, that's why Peter Thiel has citizenship here.

maelito 3 days ago |

Protomaps should have been cited.

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