Anyone using the Vision Pro as a virtual Mac screen, with environment bonuses, is someone who would like the option to drag Mac windows for powerful apps off their "Mac screen" and be their own windows.

And those Mac apps would be even better if in "Mac" windows on Vision Pro, I could have 3D models, an interface taking advantage of 3D for plotting, etc.

Instead, Apple believes the Vision Pro is an iPad Minus, instead of being the most powerful working machine they have. More Pro, than Mac Pro.

Sure, produce a "Vision" or "Vision Air" that is basically an iPad with 3D for the low end. But please let the "Pro" in Vision Pro fulfill its potential as the most powerful environment of them all. Stop holding back its potential. The iPhone and iPad need things simplified for their simpler interfaces. But Vision Pro's interface, with keyboard and trackpad, far exceeds a Mac's interface potential. Let' go, Apple!

Importing Mac-level capabilities, even up to the computing power of MacStudio Ultras, but only as a 2D screen in a 3D environment, just screams for so much more. The new top-capability Apple interface/device.

And a new level of computing/interface capability, will pull in the creatives/developers who will go on to add even more use cases. Instead of badly porting iPad apps.

Completely agree with Ben Thompson. Apple doesn't understand the potential of their own product, even as the hardware exists today, or last year.

Small discussion (19 points, 3 days ago, 9 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46586881

I have no idea if this guy’s thoughts on the device and what would make it special are correct. (In fact I think his one camera for the whole thing idea would get boring quickly.) But it’s damning that no one seems to be able to recommend the device. I want one, but only as a toy and I can’t justify that kind of cost for a toy. I’ve not heard anything that was even remotely compelling.

Surprised “F1” doesn’t show up in this article.

It struck me that a killer use would be riding shotgun with your favorite driver.

The view I get on tv watching stadium sports at least is vastly better than from any seat in the stadium, I'd never want to use this service for football or NFL etc. Not to mention that these sports are all wrapped up in exclusive broadcast rights by people who aren't Apple.

But the real killer for this proposed use is sharing with others. More that half the time I watch live sports (or the very occasional streamed live concert) it's in a party situation with other people.

No one else can see the game and even if they could, interacting with other people with a giant headset on is a non starter.

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It would be marginally useful even at $500, annoying to use for long stretches, and very expensive.

In this economy it's dead in the water as anything other than a niche product for specific uses or an expensive geek toy. As is, it's not getting anywhere near iPod/iPhone status.