757 points by mrtksn 3 days ago | 562 comments | View on ycombinator
roxolotl 3 days ago |
ollybee 3 days ago |
ranguna 3 days ago |
c-flow 3 days ago |
greggsy 3 days ago |
DavidPiper 2 days ago |
jbl0ndie 3 days ago |
snow_mac 2 days ago |
gehsty 3 days ago |
My experience is that the UK (for example) doesn’t really know why it is building offshore wind. Is it to reduce bills to consumers (OFGEMS remit), is it to create local jobs in manufacturing (Clean Industry Bonus Scheme), is it to stimulate national wealth by ownership of projects (British Energy). It’s a mess unclear picture for me.
It would be nice if politicians could spend some time trying to work together, cross parties a come up with some sensible resolutions and long term plans instead of trying to score points for soundbites and clips.
master_crab 3 days ago |
lambdaone 3 days ago |
Battery storage isn't quite where it needs to be, yet, so there's still some need for fossil and nuclear power, but when it is, decommissioning the remaining fossil power system is a no-brainer, and those with the biggest existing solar and wind estates will benefit most, and fastest.
remus 2 days ago |
Average pace across 2024 was closer to 25-30 panels / second (which is still incredibly high!)
raffael_de 3 days ago |
Especially wind mills - they are all over the place. Outside of cities and forests it would be difficult to not see at least one ... and they like to flock.
For example:
- https://www.google.com/maps/place/Energiepark+Witznitz+MOVE+...
- https://www.erneuerbareenergien.de/energieversorger/stadtwer...
- https://www.erneuerbareenergien.de/energieversorger/stadtwer...
CuriouslyC 3 days ago |
reeredfdfdf 2 days ago |
tim333 3 days ago |
joejohnson 3 days ago |
1970-01-01 3 days ago |
waffletower 1 day ago |
undefined 2 days ago |
fuzzfactor 3 days ago |
Even though associated costs exist, a free source is the lowest of its kind you can find.
MarceliusK 3 days ago |
otikik 3 days ago |
mcswell 2 days ago |
AuthAuth 3 days ago |
blindriver 2 days ago |
I speak this having lived south of Moffett airfield where the entire area was poisoned from the degreasers used on the military planes in Moffett Field. It's one of the largest Superfund sites in the US and there are thousands of families living there. It might seem innocuous but I'm wondering whether solar panels in the environment leak any chemicals.
lvl155 3 days ago |
All that said, I don’t think wind and solar are the answers. Geothermal and fusion will need to be the solution.
asdefghyk 2 days ago |
The NEXT more challenging part is to build the necessary storage and "power network transmission lines" so that the supply can be made ( Large Scale ) reliable - 24/7 , independent of the weather.
motbus3 3 days ago |
Does this question make any sense at all?
seydor 2 days ago |
pcchristie 2 days ago |
Incredible photos.
brailsafe 2 days ago |
xerp2914 3 days ago |
> “All you have to do is say to China, how many windmill areas do you have in China? So far, they are not able to find any. They use coal, and they use oil and gas and some nuclear, not much. But they don’t have windmills, they make them and sell them to suckers like Europe, and suckers like the United States before.”
One of the most factually BS statements ever.
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattrandolph/2026/01/12/china-d...
undefined 2 days ago |
chairmansteve 3 days ago |
A lesson Europe could learn.
undefined 2 days ago |
vladiim 2 days ago |
soundworlds 3 days ago |
burnerRhodov2 1 day ago |
zipy124 3 days ago |
vikas-sharma 2 days ago |
dadjoker 2 days ago |
neko_ranger 3 days ago |
L_gates 2 days ago |
expedition32 3 days ago |
shevy-java 2 days ago |
However had, there is one thing working for China: decision-making steps.
I don't have any illusion about the sinomarxist party and I don't suggest that their model - which is a dictatorship, just like the USA has transitioned into now too under an orange-painted TechBro minion - replaces democractic processes. But you do have to ask yourself what the EU is doing here, other than failing in epic ways. You can not assume that current wealth will be retained in the future; and while "green energy" is great, what we in reality see right now is simply price increases. That ultimately means wealth is deducted from a majority, and only a very few profit from this. That is a design-by-failure process now.
hollowturtle 2 days ago |
hotz 3 days ago |
Lucasoato 3 days ago |
richardanaya 2 days ago |
PilotJeff 2 days ago |
gamblor956 2 days ago |
In the U.S. and EU, if the government takes your land, they have to reimburse you for it, and you can fight them every step of the way. In China, the government can take your land and if you complain, you can spend the rest of your life in a labor camp.
margorczynski 3 days ago |
SPICLK2 3 days ago |
avsteele 3 days ago |
https://www.iea.org/countries/china
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/coal-consumption-by-count...
globular-toast 3 days ago |
Not so scenic any more... I get it, electricity good, but man are we destroying places just to get this stuff. In the UK I reckon within my lifetime it won't be possible to go to the sea any more. I mean, the sea how it used to be, without wind turbines in it. Fossil fuels gave us too much. If only we could figure out how to want less.