660 points by embedding-shape 1 day ago | 288 comments | View on ycombinator
pavlov about 23 hours ago |
paulus_magnus2 1 day ago |
CEO stated "We built a browser with GPT-5.2 in Cursor"
instead of
"by dividing agents into planners and workers we managed to get them busy for weeks creating thousands of commits to the main branch, resolving merge conflicts along the way. The repo is 1M+ lines of code but the code does not work (yet)"
[0] https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agents
[1] https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2011776630440558799
[2] https://x.com/mntruell/status/2011562190286045552
[3]https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1qd541a/ceo_of...
embedding-shape 1 day ago |
Edit: As mentioned, I ran `cargo check` on all the last 100 commits, and seems every single of them failed in some way: https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/f5d096dd10be44ff82b...
undefined about 1 hour ago |
deng 1 day ago |
https://github.com/wilson-anysphere/formula
The Actions overview is impressive: There have been 160,469 workflow runs, of which 247 succeeded. The reason the workflows are failing is because they have exceeded their spending limit. Of course, the agents couldn't care less.
ankit219 about 23 hours ago |
wilsonzlin about 13 hours ago |
The repo is a live incubator for the harness. We are actively researching the behavior of collaborative long running agents, and may in the future make the browser and other products this research produces more consumable by end users and developers, but it's not the goal for now. We made it public as we were excited by the early results and wanted to share; while far off from feature parity with the most popular production browsers today, we think it has made impressive progress in the last <1 week of wall time.
Given the interest in trying out the current state of the project, I've merged a more up-to-date snapshot of the system's progress that resolves issues with builds and CI. The experimental harness can occasionally leave the repo in an incomplete state but does converge, which was the case at the time of the post.
I'm here to answer any further questions you have.
[0] https://x.com/wilsonzlin/status/2012398625394221537?s=20
Snuggly73 about 24 hours ago |
I couldn’t make it render the apple page that was on the Cursor promo. Maybe they’ve used some other build.
geooff_ 1 day ago |
jadenpeterson about 18 hours ago |
About an hour later, we got a call from the vet - they'd misread the scan, and Sonic was gonna be fine. I think I was traumatized at the time, but the whole thing later became an inside joke (?) for my family - "Don't kill your porcupine before the vet calls" (a la "Don't count your chickens before they hatch").
I guess my point, as it pertains to Cursor, its AI offerings, and other corporations in the space is that we shouldn't jump the gun before a reasonable framework exists to evaluate such open-ended technologies. Of course Cursor reported this as a success, the incentive structure demands they do so. So remember - don't kill your porcupine before the vet calls.
elzbardico about 5 hours ago |
Their whole attitude leads to them wasting time with those Willy the Coyote Plans instead of building good products like Amp.
nindalf 1 day ago |
> It's 3M+ lines of code across thousands of files. The rendering engine is from-scratch in Rust with HTML parsing, CSS cascade, layout, text shaping, paint, and a custom JS VM.
"From scratch" sounds very impressive. "custom JS VM" is as well. So let's take a look at the dependencies [1], where we find
- html5ever
- cssparser
- rquickjs
That's just servo [2], a Rust based browser initially built by Mozilla (and now maintained by Igalia [3]) but with extra steps. So this supposed "from scratch" browser is just calling out to code written by humans. And after all that it doesn't even compile! It's just plain slop.
[1] - https://github.com/wilsonzlin/fastrender/blob/main/Cargo.tom...
thedelanyo 1 day ago |
chaosprint about 23 hours ago |
nubskr about 10 hours ago |
utopiah about 4 hours ago |
Not only did I actually build a Web browser myself, from scratch (ok OK of course with a working OS and Python, and its libraries ;) but mine, did work! And it took me what, few hours, maybe few days if adding it altogether but, not only it did work (namely I did browse my own Website with it) but I had fun with it (!), I learned quite a bit with it (including the provable fact that I can indeed build a Web browser, woohoo!) and finally I did it on... I want say few kilowatts at most, including my computer (obviously) but also myself and the food I ate along the way.
So... to each their own ̄\_ (ツ)_/ ̄
orourke about 8 hours ago |
motbus3 about 9 hours ago |
7777777phil 1 day ago |
ares623 about 20 hours ago |
solid_fuel about 16 hours ago |
DeathArrow about 12 hours ago |
Who would have thought of that?
josefritzishere 1 day ago |
undefined 1 day ago |
Pinus 1 day ago |
heliumtera about 22 hours ago |
m00dy 1 day ago |
Matthyze 1 day ago |
ironbound about 22 hours ago |
mikojan about 23 hours ago |
sidgarimella about 16 hours ago |
devmor about 13 hours ago |
The things that modern machine learning can do are absolutely incredible, mindblowing and have myriad uses. But this culture of startup scams to siphon money out of the economy and into the bank accounts of a few investment firms and a couple "visionaries" has just turned what should be an exciting field full of technical advancement into a deluge of mental sewage that's constantly pumped into our faces.
noosphr about 23 hours ago |
emp17344 1 day ago |
lifetimerubyist about 23 hours ago |
> looks inside
> completely useless and busted
30 billion dollar VS Code fork everyone. When we do start looking at these people for what they are: snake oil salesmen.
They slop laundered the FOSS Servo code into a broken mess and called it a browser, but dumbasses with money will make line go up based on lies. EFF right off.
LegitShady about 18 hours ago |
user432678 1 day ago |
AIorNot about 24 hours ago |
Always take any pronouncement from an AI company (heavily dependent on VC and public sentiment on AI) with a heavy grain of salt..
hype over reality
I’m building an AI startup myself and I know that world and its full of hypsters and hucksters unfortunately - also social media communication + low attention span + AI slop communication is a blight upon todays engineering culture
xcvxvdf 1 day ago |
logicallee about 20 hours ago |
jonathanstrange about 20 hours ago |
My prediction last year was already that in the distant future - more than 10 years into the future - operating systems will create software on the fly. It will be a basic function of computers. However, there might remain a need for stable, deterministic software, the two human-machine interaction models can live together. There will be a need for software that does exactly what one wants in a dumb way and there will be a need for software that does complex things on the fly in an overall less reliable ad hoc way.
ryanisnan about 23 hours ago |
People were making all sorts of statements like: - “I cloned it and there were loads of compiler warnings” - “the commit build success rate was a joke” - “it used 3rd party libs” - “it is AI slop”
What they all seem to be just glossing over is how the project unfolded: without human intervention, using computers, in an exceptionally accelerated time frame, working 24hr/day.
If you are hung up on commit build quality, or code quality, you are completely missing the point, and I fear for your job prospects. These things will get better; they will get safer as the workflows get tuned; they will scale well beyond any of us.
Don’t look at where the tech is. Look where it’s going.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46649046