193 points by wjSgoWPm5bWAhXB 4 days ago | 103 comments | View on ycombinator
bensyverson 4 days ago |
tss93 4 days ago |
But constant happiness isn’t realistic, it’s like a desire to be permanently high. From my own experience I’ve landed somewhere near the Buddhist framing: the healthy default is just calm and neutral, with happiness and sadness coming and going away.
Trying to force happiness as a permanent state seems like its own problem, which is kind of what Bentall is pointing at from the other direction.
letharion 4 days ago |
pogue 4 days ago |
FDA Approves Depressant Drug For The Annoyingly Cheerful [video/NSFW/2:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd4tugPM83c
delichon 4 days ago |
"Good morning!"
still "That's what the government wants you to believe."
or is it now "You want me to contract a psychiatric disorder? What did I ever do to you?"effed3 4 days ago |
More seriously (very little indeed) maybe the 'problem' is all those activities that need to create more and more new problems/disorders to justify all the work uppon, so what if psychiatry is a psychiatric disorder? regressum ad infinitum, take the red pill.
About happiness, Buddha, asked about the way to happines, say: happiness is not the destination, is the way.
xyzelement 4 days ago |
I think other languages have more shades for this much like eskimos have many words for snow.
For example in the Jewish tradition the word "nahas" is something like the satisfaction of watching the children you raised become excellent parents of their own.
Another word "simha" could be translated as "happy occasion" but really is only used for positive lifecycle events (birth, marriage, etc)
In modern English we would probably use "happy" for all these but it's unfortunate that we'd also use the same word for triviality like "I am happy jerking off in my basement"
The beauty of "nahas" and "simha" is they point us towards a sustainable and deeply meaningful way to be "happy" - to achieve significance in our lives that makes us feel good because things are deeply good.
"Happiness" does not act as a guidepost in the same way. I believe it actually comes from the same root as "happen" - a sort of vagarity you hope to stumble into but aren't sure how to work towards.
Don't get me started on the English word "love" lol.
jayd16 4 days ago |
kusokurae 4 days ago |
I wonder are there any ways I can contract this without breaking marital vows
_doctor_love 4 days ago |
Reading this I can't help but feel that the person who wrote it is a POS.
eouw0o83hf 4 days ago |
"If our so-called scientific system were really objective and honest, it would include happiness as a disorder." I think this is the goal the paper is trying to expose, more than just making a joke about mapping a good feeling to a description of a bad feeling. Indeed, I think the last line of the paper gives it away - our current system is very incomplete and needs to be extended:
> Indeed, only a psychopathology that openly declares the relevance of values to classification could persist in excluding happiness from the psychiatric disorders.
gabrielso 4 days ago |
8bitsrule 4 days ago |
Never mind all the ads ... It isn't 'out there somewhere'.
arizen 4 days ago |
Pursuing a meaningful goal almost always requires enduring unpleasant phases and friction along the way.
rglover 4 days ago |
skeledrew 4 days ago |
iberator 4 days ago |
Most business owner people have it. That's why they are often out of touch with random Joe.
They belive in success even if math is saying that's bias.
Form of pychosis
bawana 3 days ago |
lamontcg 4 days ago |
tokai 4 days ago |
techblueberry 4 days ago |
undefined 4 days ago |
emsign 4 days ago |
boesboes 4 days ago |
dmschulman 4 days ago |
aristofun 4 days ago |
In the process they usually spoil and dumb down it to the point of making no sense (but making more money).
Happiness? Fine! Well sell that.
Happiness is overrated? Even better! Let’s wrap that and shove it down the throat of different focus group.
This is just brilliant.
adyashakti 4 days ago |
AnimalMuppet 4 days ago |
Seriously, happiness is a psychiatric disorder? Rare, sure, but a disorder? That's the craziest thing I've heard since... well, since the Iran war, I guess, so not very long. Still, that's nuts. I cannot imagine the world view that it must take to look at happiness that way.
That's just not how life works.