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The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics (https://blog.apotenza.com)

71 points by pholbrook 4 days ago | 62 comments | View on ycombinator

PaulHoule 4 days ago |

I remember circa 2017 working for startups and traveling a lot. Most of the people were using macs but I had an Alienware because that way I could have a real GPU and train neural nets locally.

Back then a mac worked much better with the docks I could find and monitors that had a dock plugged in. It was close to instant and "just works" on the Mac whereas the Windows computer would take 45 seconds to enumerate the dock every time.

The other day we had a power failure that caused my home server which normally runs headless to go down and stay down. Right next to that server is a Mac with a Studio display which has no ordinary ports like HDMI, DVI, VGA, DisplayPort, whatever. I had to take the server upstairs and plug it into a old cheap monitor I had there and it turned out that somehow the *-extras package didn't get installed by Ubuntu and I had no network card drivers. Not hard to fix, but another illustration of how Apple products often are just a little less useful and valuable than they could be.

tyleo 3 days ago |

I agree with the criticisms of modern macOS. However, let’s not forget their competitor is Windows. So even if they aren’t going great, it’s not like they have stiff competiton. Thats before even getting into hardware where Microsoft is even further behind.

It’s unfortunate that it’s so hard to disrupt this space.

dwaite 3 days ago |

This seems like a vehicle for complaining about a pet list of missing macOS features rather than actually being commentary about the Neo.

For instance, they are arguing that Apple is pushing users toward a Thunderbolt dock - on a computer without Thunderbolt.

NoPicklez 3 days ago |

I've been using a Macbook as my personal laptop since 2008 when they introduced the first aluminum chassis and still these things the author raises are still little quirks I wish Mac would resolve.

cultofmetatron 3 days ago |

most of my nonengineer friends are using laptops that are built like junk and falling apart with dismal performance. a $600 mac thats easy to repair and does the basics is such an easy recommendation for so many of them

_fw 3 days ago |

It’s interesting to see the big about Virtual Desktops being surpassed by Windows here.

I still can’t get thumbnail previews of my Virtual Desktops at the top of my screen. I see the desktops but they’re blank.

And missing that context is tricky when you have four of them (:

bhouston 3 days ago |

I think this is fundamentally misdiagnosing why Macs haven’t dominated. It is actually not about the monitor support but about:

- government and corporate bulk contracts ?and this is usually a result of software only working on Windows.) - expensive (thus affecting for most home users and also corporate bulk buyers who can not tell the difference.) - lack of high end game support

That is why it doesn’t have more market share.

You are thinking too much about minor technical issues.

pjmlp 3 days ago |

That is to be expected, but lets not distract all those Apple outlets how Apple is going to take down the 80% market share of Windows with Neo.

sharts 3 days ago |

I run Windows in a VM when I really need a file manager. Because explorer is that much better, sadly, with saner look and feel.

cpt_sobel 3 days ago |

Have mostly had the same complaints with MacOS since the beginning. Also something I'd like to see mentioned is the refusal to add a tiny X on the corners of windows in the Mission Control view, and the only workaround I've found is some 8$ app on AppStore.

Still can't believe how much better it felt to log in to KDE (admittedly not my favorite) on my Steam Deck when I had to configure something and got to use the file manager. It just let me... do stuff that MacOS wants to hide from me. Cmd-shift-. to show hidden files, seriously? Cmd-shift-G to go to a path?!

I've been using MacOS exclusively for 5 years now and had forgotten how much I like working on linux - I definitely haven't forgotten how much I dislike Windows though...

coldtea 3 days ago |

None of those will prevent Neo to scaling to record sales

quietsegfault 4 days ago |

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

productgal93 2 days ago |

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pholbrook 4 days ago |

The author says: "This is my detailed criticism of macOS (in market context of the Neo), and the many paper cuts Apple needs to fix to catch up."