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The Los Angeles Aqueduct Is Wild (https://practical.engineering)

406 points by michaefe 5 days ago | 206 comments | View on ycombinator

jedberg 2 days ago |

The norcal/socal divide caused by the river is funny to me. I grew up in LA, then moved to the Bay Area for college. In LA we never really talked about where our water comes from. But we were always 'in a drought' and always taught to conserve water.

My wife grew up in the Bay Area, and was told the same.

But her family is from Sacramento. Up until about 15 years ago, everyone in Sacramento paid the same for water (based on square footage of your home). There were no water meters. So they didn't conserve. They ran the sprinklers in 100 degree heat for hours, they washed sidewalks with water instead sweeping, and all the other things.

But when the meters came, her Uncle blamed SoCal for "stealing his water". He complained every month when the bill came about how he has to pay more now because of SoCal.

strongpigeon 2 days ago |

Sometimes it feels like the US has lost its appetite for grand structural projects like that. Maybe it’s just that I’m unaware of them and that impression is the result of survival bias, but given how impossibly hard it is to just build anything where I live (Seattle), I’m not so sure.

notepad0x90 2 days ago |

Looking at what Tehran is facing (not related to the war, water shortage), I'm wondering why california isn't investing in more desalination for SoCal, especially for LA.

I see some here:

https://lynceans.org/all-posts/status-of-desalination-plants...

But there are only a few in SoCal and they're for smaller communities like carlsbad or santa barbara. So it is there and it is working for some, why not more? naturally i assume it's because everything costs more at the coast.

gorfian_robot 2 days ago |

Being from LA, I am used to a water system that works without needing power. I think most of CA is like that. It was a surprise to lose the water back east when the power went out during a storm.

z3ugma 2 days ago |

"Well There's Your Problem" on the collapse of the St Francis Dam, mentioned in Grady's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxLgM1vnuUA

Also I love when they refer to it as the "_First_ California Water Wars" in a grim realization of the future of water scarcity in the West

PeterStuer 2 days ago |

Why is that picture an extreme recolor of the original?

https://images.nebula.tv/5ba7e541-f57c-44cc-a91d-6a89bad158d...

kyledrake 2 days ago |

I was in Owens River Gorge last week, it's a very interesting place. It has some of the tallest single pitch rock climbing in the world, sometimes requiring 80M ropes: https://www.mountainproject.com/area/105843226/owens-river-g...

retrac 2 days ago |

There's a poem carved into the stonework of Washington Union Station, part of the art installation The Progress of Railroading from c. 1909:

the old mechanic arts / controlling new forces / build new highways / for goods and men / override the ocean / and make the very ether / carry human thought

the desert shall rejoice / and blossom as the rose

laaqua 1 day ago |

Does anyone know why there's been a bit of a surge of videos/articles about this? Or am I just getting Baader-Meinhof ed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeYvNkaLAqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNE-xVk8OE

KerrAvon 2 days ago |

If anyone wants a deep dive on this subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Desert

hnburnsy 2 days ago |

My favorite part of this video is where they divert and dry up one lake, and then build two reservoirs further downstream.

rimunroe 2 days ago |

I was surprised to find out it was largely uncovered, though I guess it probably makes it much cheaper to construct. I usually think of aqueducts as pipes or tunnels, like Persian qanāts. I wonder how much water is lost due to evaporation.

CommenterPerson 1 day ago |

I love Practical Engineering. Grady Hillhouse's enthusiasm for engineering shows through brilliantly. Being a graduate engineer, I've learned a lot from his videos and transcriptions. Well worth browsing practical.engineering.

PS: and it is NOT about software engineering LOL!

rkagerer 2 days ago |

Am curious, how have the shade balls been working out in terms of maintenance, coating wear, leeched microplastics, containment (so they don't wind up in oceans), etc? In retrospect, did it make sense compared to the $250M or so uplift it would have taken to build a conventional roof?

scoofy 2 days ago |

Just a quick plug for Cadillac Desert. People don't realize how fragile the urban areas of Coastal California are. We should.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Desert

gz5 1 day ago |

NYC aqueduct from the Catskills is wild too, especially if you like the effect on NYC pizza and bagels.

Great articles have been written on the engineering but I like this one from 1909 showing the perspective of the time:

https://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/dnaque.Html

lproven 1 day ago |

Quite interesting.

This is also why every video needs a transcript: that took me 6min to read, about 1/4 of the video's running time.

anjel 5 days ago |

Nice picture but I've never seen the water anywhere near blue like that.

subpixel 1 day ago |

Reminds me of when I was talking to friends about the film Chinatown and I referred to it as a movie about the California water war and someone else said “dude, that’s not what that film is about”.

We were both correct.

bombcar 2 days ago |

I wonder at what point the up-front costs of massive desalination would overcome the (often hidden and externalized) costs of projects like this.

rootusrootus 1 day ago |

Is it really considered the Cascades all the way down near LA? I thought the mountains down there were the Sierra Nevada? Did Grady just get that detail wrong, or am I wrong in thinking that the Cascades stops in Northern California?

mjamesaustin 2 days ago |

Growing up in LA, I was fascinated as a kid watching the water flow down this aqueduct. Anytime we drove by it on the way to Magic Mountain, I'd hope that it would be a water-on day.

dhalucario about 10 hours ago |

Insane waterslide

TipsForCanoes 2 days ago |

For anyone interested in a deep dive, I recommend the book Vision or villainy: origins of the Owens Valley-Los Angeles water controversy.

wolandomny 2 days ago |

I remember hearing years ago that this aqueduct was going to be shut down and then it just... never was? Does anyone else recall that?

TheGrassyKnoll 2 days ago |

Some say the LA aqueduct saved Owens Valley from development. (I’m sure the old timers out there would have a different opinion)

babblingfish 2 days ago |

I really dig the editorial viewpoint of this article. New journalism style meets fun facts about engineering.

phyzome 2 days ago |

Pretty upsetting history along with the interesting engineering.

hparadiz 2 days ago |

The California aquaduct system is an engineering marvel.

3happyrobots 4 days ago |

Really enjoyed watching that. Good luck with water LA.

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