208 points by bryanhogan 7 days ago | 154 comments | View on ycombinator
ahmadyan 4 days ago |
nout 4 days ago |
iammjm 4 days ago |
saxelsen 4 days ago |
It does most of what Obsidian does but has a free sync version where you just use your cloud drive as the storage.
The main thing missing, from what I've found, is that it does do the "notes mind map". But I never really found that useful.
pdpi 4 days ago |
The reason for having multiple vaults is simple: I find that the usability of the one big über-vault drops off sharply if you're not disciplined in maintaining organisation, and a consistent workflow, and, if you're storing a bunch of disparate things in a single vault, an organisation/workflow that's universal enough to encompass everything rapidly becomes a pain in the arse to maintain. Inversely, topic-specific vaults tend to rapidly develop their own bespoke structures and workflows that match the topic closely and are very natural to work in.
For example, I have a large vault dedicated to Blue Prince (the game). As in several hundred megs worth of screenshots, over a hundred individual .md files (most of which are almost empty, but their existence is helpful in itself), folder structure that groups information on a per-puzzle basis, and it features pervasive use of tags to encode game features)
Another vault is a cookbook. I don't cook by recipe all that often, so that one mostly has reference tables for cooking times/temps for different foods in different appliances (I don't cook pearl barley often enough to remember how much liquid to use and what rice cooker programme to set).
philips 4 days ago |
However, every few weeks the official Obsidian sync makes an absolute mess of our shopping list (which has fairly frequent edits and deletions across our laptops and phones). I have no idea how to fix it.
This thread shows other users having the exact same issue as us: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-sync-incorrectly-duplic...
If it wasn't for this one issue I would be able to strongly recommend the tool but as it is now I just tell people it sort of works and I am mildly happy.
To be fair I don't think any of the popular alternatives like logseq or joplin even attempt to do automatic file merges and just dump files into a conflict mode.
tombert 4 days ago |
I liked the notes stuff, but I found I was spending more time with the bureaucracy of it instead of actually doing work, so I've kind of stopped using it.
echelon 5 days ago |
- First-class multi-vault support. It's difficult to keep personal / business / team separate. I want to keep shared notes for my team, but it's really hard.
- First-class git support. The git plugin is dangerous and will overwrite changes from other devices. The mobile git plugin (which requires hacks to even use) is deadly bad with blowing away your entire git history. Do not use. Obsidian sync is cool and good and all, but I want git. And the existing git isn't just bad, it's deleterious.
- Spreadsheets. Literally just free-form tabular data would work too. Their "bases" thing isn't it. I just need to be able to sort data and keep it versioned. Google Sheets is a huge daily use product - if I had the same function in Obsidian, Gsuite would be dead to me.
dbvn 4 days ago |
hgoel 4 days ago |
I'm still building the habit for using it instead of scattering notes in text documents or self-DMs on various platforms, but during setup, the complexity was concerning, since I associate complexity in this kind of system with fragility. For now I am still in the exploring phase, so not ruling it out yet.
on_the_train 5 days ago |
Other than that, I love so many things about the program. Just linking and graphs are weird and strangely overrated. Search and tags still rules over everything imo
tjarjoura 3 days ago |
Obviously you have to be careful what you share, and make your own decisions about the utility/privacy trade-off.
I also agree with keeping it very simple. I went down a rabbit hole where I installed a bunch of plugins and basically treated it as a dynamic web application. Now I keep it simple and have basically no plugins, no enforced structure. I don't try to do Zettelkasten or anything like that. Usually I just write in my daily note and link to other notes as makes sense, but I don't force it.
rockooooo 4 days ago |
ubermonkey 5 days ago |
Obsidian is appealing because it's available on iOS, but the whole approach ended up (for me) being more fiddly and less effective (again for me) than orgmode.
OTOH & to be fair, I've been using Org for a really long time.
pcchristie 4 days ago |
Having simultaneously embraced AI a lot more, it's been incredible having AI very easily access and work with my notes for me (not to mention making the migration so much better by brute forcing a lot of the tidying and database formatting).
The only thing I haven't been able to replicate from Notion is my shopping list. It used to be one big database, filtered by "unticked". So I could add items, and ticking them would essentially hide them. Rudimentary grouping & sorting by clusters (frozen section, fruit & veg) was a small help, too.
A pretty simple implementation but I can't work out how to get that to work in Obsidian. AI had no ideas either than an extension (which I've already forgotten the name of) which didn't really do it properly (or at least elegantly). Am I missing something?
troyvit 4 days ago |
Sync is not automatic for me and so far that's a feature. I commit my changes to gitlab and since it's markdown that gives me a chance to review what I've done and add a summary in my commit message. It helps me stay a little more focused.
harmoni-pet 4 days ago |
kelvinjps10 5 days ago |
chaosprint 4 days ago |
skeeter2020 4 days ago |
severine 4 days ago |
As I'm currently contemplating using one of these tools, I'd love if you elaborated on that.
Great article, thanks.
__rito__ 4 days ago |
I have 0 community plugins. I use it for writing articles that becomes .qmd file for my quarto blog, I make lists, I track progress, and I have a standing file called scrip.md where I write tables, LaTeX equations, and screenshot and share them.
I have some folders, and I link some files. That's it. It has first class Linux desktop and Android experience, and that's all I want. No web browser, no internet dependence, no black box data processing, and complete freedom. If it is ever bought by potential enshittifiers, I just stop using it!
I don't use many Obsidian-only features to not be dependent on the benevolence of the creators.
operatingthetan 5 days ago |
yoz-y 4 days ago |
All other sync methods seem to come with caveats. I’d use iCloud Drive but I was not able to mount it with rclone.
tech_ken 5 days ago |
Great advice, I tried to get into Obsidian a few weeks ago and could immediately feel myself getting pulled into the "Workflow Optimization Spiral". I love nothing more than fruitlessly tooling with workflow stuff, in place of actually, you know, working. I kind of just decided to set it aside, rather than parse through exactly which parts would be actually helpful for stuff I needed that day. Really appreciate this blog post to help me revisit the app from a more practical starting place.
lschueller 4 days ago |
For me, the 2 most powerful aspects are: - as mentioned in the article, there is no pricing plan, no limits, no enshittification or feature creep... Fully usable from now to eternity
- md format! So damn easy to export it to a proper pdf file, to copy it into a html page converter etc.
dr_kiszonka 4 days ago |
afpx 4 days ago |
What can I expect to gain by using Obsidian?
SilentM68 4 days ago |
myst 4 days ago |
outlore 4 days ago |
kavyan 4 days ago |
hybirdss 4 days ago |
philipnee 4 days ago |
Just downloaded the notes, then told Claude to organize and remove duplicate or index mds (Notion keeps a lot of random indexes) and clean up and within 30mins i had a very clean and usable (and agent accessible) md vault. I can open it in Obsidian or other md file viewer (as well as my own code editor). I opted for obsidian.
Setup was super straight-forward. I do miss the visual editor in Notion (obsidian editor is not as smooth, and i find myself just writing the files in text instead of using their visual mode).
for sync, i use icloud, and it syncs between the iphone and the mac app flawlessly, didn't have any issue with corruptions (yet). I use the phone app as mostly an intake, and the desktop app for mostly visualizations. I also tinkered with adding git to track history (has to put the .git folder outside the repo with --separate-git-dir).
Obsidian has a terminal support (which i suppose folks can use to run agents in there) although i found it easier (habbit perhaps) to run my agents separately. They provide massive unlock as their turn my knowledge to an actual insight and can connect things that i didn't think it was possible before.
Overall, 75% happy. From first principle, file is as simple as it gets and i think this is good enough personal knowledge management. I do miss sharing capabilities as well as multi-user in Notion, so i don't think this is useful for 2player/team/corp.