530 points by surprisetalk 5 days ago | 451 comments | View on ycombinator
pseudosavant 5 days ago |
cmiles8 5 days ago |
thomascountz 5 days ago |
[1]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026...
xracy 5 days ago |
Typically I just have my 401k in an index fund so that things have to become established before they're added. This seems like it's circumventing that, and I would be inclined to vote with my wallet. But everything around 401k index funds that I see are very opaque, so it's not totally clear to me how I would avoid this if I wanted to.
neovive 5 days ago |
Esophagus4 5 days ago |
How much bigger can they get when they’re already 1/5 the size of the world’s largest company?
It seems like the chance of retail making a killing on these IPOs like they did with Amazon (+2200x since IPO) or Nvidia are slim. The entire S&P is $60T.
40acres 5 days ago |
hubraumhugo 5 days ago |
freediddy 5 days ago |
2001zhaozhao 5 days ago |
sschueller 5 days ago |
latentframe 5 days ago |
eamag 5 days ago |
throwaw12 5 days ago |
Would it crash other company stocks so that investors start selling and purchasing Anthropic shares, or how does it work?
ch4s3 5 days ago |
epsteingpt 4 days ago |
AI real expectations are about as frothy as they'll ever be.
The latest models have legitimately taken senior coders from execution to agentic babysitting mode - something that was only a dream until last time.
There's a rumor of a $500M MONTHLY Anthropic Bill - that is the equivalent total compensation of 10-15 THOUSAND senior ICs (L5, L6). Imagine what kind of company can spend that amount and pay their staff and somehow 'see value'
The indexing argument is overblown. How many companies of the S&P could the average commenter here name? My guess is - charitably - 30. Yes, weighting, etc. but every indexer here is buying in hundreds of companies they have no idea about the business of, and all of a sudden some percentage goes to a tech company they know about and they want to comment.
Let these people run their victory lap!
chinathrow 5 days ago |
rvz 5 days ago |
Better to do it now than to wait a day longer and the tokens are not getting any cheaper here.
Obviously OpenAI will file for IPO certainly this month, or even this week in response both SpaceX, and Anthropic.
Then AGI will then have been achieved externally.
meszmate 3 days ago |
ssgodderidge 5 days ago |
metalliqaz 5 days ago |
ParkRanger 5 days ago |
kypro 5 days ago |
darylteo 5 days ago |
jubilanti 5 days ago |
ParkRanger 5 days ago |
jms703 4 days ago |
keeda 5 days ago |
I do think Anthropic's business has very good long-term prospects, but the current run rates are not sustainable and they know it which is why they, more than OpenAI, are under higher pressure to IPO. Some things to consider:
1. This was surprising to me, but enterprises Claude Code (and Codex) plans are billed on token usage at API rates. I was expecting lower rates for volume subscriptions. This explains their huge spike in ARR, but I expect competitive pressures will soon come into play, especially as companies start to get more budget-conscious. Specifically...
2. Tokenmaxxing is finally encountering the inevitable pushback. My theory is it was an effort to incentivize devs to experiment and figure out ways to get productive with AI by throwing money at the problem, which was always going to be a short-term dynamic. Companies are going to be much more intentional about token budgets (especially as Anthropic is apparently now asking for volume commitments for enterprise plans.) Smaller, open-weight models may start looking much more attractive.
3. I've said before but I think Anthropic severely underestimated their own popularity and corresponding demand for compute and has to enter costly deals to acquire capacity to keep Claude's 9's above GitHub's, even as they alienated customers with short term tweaks to optimize usage. These deals will eat into their margins and Claude's problems likely pushed customers to competitors, the effects of which could take time to be more evident.
So maybe whatever looks good on their financials right now is time-limited, and the current boost may start petering out at some point, which may influence when OpenAI files their own IPO.
TSiege 5 days ago |
elzbardico 2 days ago |
outside1234 5 days ago |
alexandre_m 5 days ago |
I just hope pension funds and other long-term investors don’t end up buying into them.
guluarte 5 days ago |
Steering 5 days ago |
xyst 5 days ago |
jhy17632 4 days ago |
cdrnsf 5 days ago |
ttul 5 days ago |
yobid20 5 days ago |
ecommerceguy 5 days ago |
lucamark 5 days ago |
stefanhorne 5 days ago |
root-parent 5 days ago |
"The stock market just did something eerily similar to the dot-com bubble top in 2000" - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/01/the-stock-market-just-did-so...
christkv 5 days ago |
kenyuz 5 days ago |
Not to mention the insane wake-up call it is going to be for these AI stocks when 3 months after they launch they have to start making earnings calls and showing their financials. That quarter-by-quarter pressure and scrutiny is no joke, and probably the biggest downside of going public.
I'm bullish on AI, but kind of bearish on any specific AI company. None of the initial big dotcom companies like AOL or Yahoo survived at the scale they briefly had.