It's not particularly revelatory to point out that this project has been generated largely by LLM (claude most likely, given the CLAUDE.md in the repo).

Also looks like a bit of introspection has happened ... https://github.com/duanebester/gooey/blob/main/docs/architec...

I wonder if this is just what we get now: low quality code, expressed rapidly. We are excited by the promise only to be disappointed by the reality of the implementation.

There are still a few new things around that are carefully and thoughtfully developed and put out into the world. zig itself. MitchellH's ghostty. And there's still all the older foundations of really wonderful, robust, software created by people like Linus Torvalds and couple of generations of open source devs, that applied great skill, ingenuity and hard work to produce the very best software.

But I fear that I'm in for a period of lamentation as we get wave after wave of promising sounding developments, but where the reality is low quality, LLM generated crap that you really shouldn't use if you want secure, stable performant, production-ready software.

Seems like perhaps we've been through a golden age of really great software and that now it's coming to a close.

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This looks good. But the thing that always lets me down on UI frameworks is how much freaking work it is to get something on the screen. My first language was Borland Turbo C++. It was so comparatively simple to do stuff. If I want to write a circle on the screen its just this:

#include <graphics.h> #include <conio.h>

int main() { int gd = DETECT, gm;

    initgraph(&gd, &gm, "C:\\TURBOC3\\BGI");

    circle(320, 240, 100);

    getch();
    closegraph();

    return 0;

}

Making some shapes and forms wasn't that much work either.

If I think back to VB and Windows (whatever it was then) making a basic window, form and some buttons was so simple and easy, they even made GUI builders because they were so good.

Somewhere along the lines GUIs became overly complex to implement.

At first I was very excited about this project. After reading the comments, I'm now deeply saddened by it... Given how much competition there already is in the GUI framework space, it's very difficult to see why something hastily thrown together by AI would get much traction. To really make an impact in this space, I think we'll need to see something thoughtfully designed that really tries to innovate in some profound way rather than just being more of the same

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm really skeptical about projects like this. 200000 lines of code addition in 3 months, basically 2000 lines per day. I don't think any human brain is capable to handle such cognitive complexity, unless the code is all plain data get/setters, which any framework is certainly not. For me a good way to use LLM is to learn how to build something big by writing a tiny one with it. But this only gives a shallow understanding of a big system. For any critical complex system you want to maintain for a long time, LLM is in no way a good choice.

Interesting project, but needs documentation. In particular, what's the model it uses? I.e. how are events, state, etc. handled? Normally I'd just work it out from the code examples, but the example in the README is over 200 lines which is too long for me.

(Don't tell me here. Make your docs better, so everyone benefits!)

Sadface :-(

(Author of Gooey [1], a GUI framework for WebASM in Go)

[1] https://github.com/cookiengineer/gooey

This is great, we need more of this. It's high time we began to escape the dark ages of rule-by-Electron. See Bitwarden's recent fumble of a redesign.

I was really eager to use those new frameworks until a recent HN comment raising how power-hungry and wasetul these were for most of their usage (terminal, forms, tui), and now I think it will probably be seen as ‘bloat’ in the future.

Using an AI-generated GUI framework written in Zig (a lang with no safety guarantees despite being quite helpful to human devs) is a brave decision.

It is great to see the Zig ecosystem growing, even though it was achieved by AI. I wish humans had done it, but I do not wanna start a debate between those who arent fans of AI and those who are.

Another Zig GUI project that people might be interested in is DVUI:

https://github.com/david-vanderson/dvui

I wasn’t clear from the description if text rendering is GPU accelerated, or in my case drawing quads from an atlas of characters in a texture is probably more efficient.

> Inspiration

> GPUI - Zed's GPU UI framework

Cool, but a comparison would also be very helpful.

If I decide to make a GUI app with Zig, how do I choose between Gooey and GPUI?

So far, all I know that GPUI is more mature and has at least one successful project built with it, so...

Also:

> Gooey: Turn (almost) any Python 3 Console Program into a GUI application with one line

> https://github.com/chriskiehl/Gooey

"Rewrite GPUI in Zig and make no mistakes" ahh moment. I will never trust software that is written by people who don't understand anything and just generate slop. You have a powerful tool that can help you understand how things work and improve your skills. You can explore huge codebases and find exactly what you're looking for without wasting hours digging through code. Instead, you choose to generate ai slop.

More visual examples are sorely needed - I could only find a small (toy) example of a dialog, that didn't seem to showcase many of the framework capabilities.

This is great.

Show me the GUI! We are gonna need more than a couple pics of chat-zig.

Could have named it Zooey

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Nice work but honestly I haven't seen convincing arguments for writing medium to large GUI applications in a language that has no automatic GC.

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Yavos - yet another vibe coded shit

I have to say it: Zig devs are on another level