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Astronauts told to return to ISS after sheltering over air leak repairs (https://www.bbc.com)

307 points by janpot about 6 hours ago | 197 comments | View on ycombinator

tedd4u about 3 hours ago |

I found this interesting: NASA RELL (Robotic External Leak Detector) [1].

    "NASA’s Robotic External Leak Locator (RELL) is a robotic, remote-controlled tool that helps mission operators detect the location of an external leak and rapidly confirm a successful repair. 
    … Two instruments working in sync give RELL its ammonia-detecting superpowers. … Mass spectrometer & Ion vacuum pressure gauge"
[1] (PDF fact sheet from NASA) https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/rell-factshe...

rconti about 4 hours ago |

> After multiple inspections and sealant applications, Nasa reported in January that pressure readings suggested a stable configuration had been reached - though there remained uncertainty about whether the leak had truly been sealed or whether air was simply escaping elsewhere.

I'm clearly not understanding what they're trying to say here. If _one_ leak was sealed, but the air was "escaping elsewhere", it would still be a leak, causing pressure readings to drop.

gwbas1c about 6 hours ago |

Maybe someone who knows more about the ISS than I do can answer this:

Naively, I would assume that there are airlocks between the different sections of the ISS. I would also assume that they would close these airlocks while doing the kind of work they are doing to repair the leaks.

So, assuming I'm right (and my assumptions might be wrong,) why do the astronauts need to shelter?

photonair about 2 hours ago |

Does someone know if push come to shove, do they have a ready to go escape pod or ship to go back Earth anytime in an emergency? How many backups do they get?

undefined about 2 hours ago |

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ordu about 5 hours ago |

Can't they just get things out of the module and paint it fresh? Maybe with some special paint, or with several layers of a paint?

Obviously they can't, it looks like an obvious solution they couldn't have missed. But I wonder why it is impossible to do.

BobbyTables2 about 4 hours ago |

They should keep some FlexSeal up there !

cucumber3732842 about 6 hours ago |

Super thin margin stuff like space flight only "works" because they cross their Ts and dot their Is. There's probably no danger here, the repairs will probably go fine and be uneventful, but you gotta treat every situation like it's the real deal because otherwise it'll get you when it does happen.

varjag about 4 hours ago |

Nasa said the segment had suffered from cracks and leaks

I expected better from the BBC.

ck2 about 5 hours ago |

Do they have things like Oxygen Candles or can those not be used in space?

Kye about 2 hours ago |

I remember reading about the ISS in the May 1998 issue of Popular Science, a full issue about the station. They were getting ready to launch the first module. Every time bad news happens, I think about this part (from a PDF I hang on to):

>> "SOMEDAY, THE international Space Station will descend, but if you're frightened at the prospect of a million-pound hunk of metal falling out of the sky, take heart. NASA does have a plan to decommission the space station eventually without creating havoc. The European Space Agency is planning to build three expendable space vehicles by 2003: two of them will ferry propellant, the other will force the station to land in a designated area. Called an automated transfer vehicle (ATV), the craft will be unmanned, similar to the Russian Progress resupply vehicle but larger, with enough thrust to nudge the entire station down in a single piece-a cheaper and safer alternative to hauling pieces of the station down in multiple trips. Roughly 90 percent of the station will be cinder by the time it reaches Earth's atmosphere; a Pacific splashdown is the plan.-Gunfan Sinha"

Markoff about 6 hours ago |

it was already cancelled and they can return back to normal operations

SoftTalker about 6 hours ago |

Imagine something like this happening halfway to Mars and zero chance of escaping, getting any help or parts sent to you.

js2 about 5 hours ago |

As of 11 minutes ago, the headline is now the opposite of that submitted:

> Astronauts told to return to International Space Station after sheltering over air leak repairs.

Magi604 about 5 hours ago |

Is this another potential OceanGate scenario (SpaceGate?), where one day the ISS just blasts apart suddenly and without warning and the occupants are ejected into the vacuum of space?

blastro about 4 hours ago |

is this a play for the space x ipo? we need a new iss?

866-RON-0-FEZ about 6 hours ago |

dotdev_prem about 4 hours ago |

How the air leaks there, from whom side is the problem is, from astronauts side's or the company's?

jmount about 6 hours ago |

I have to say worrying about the provenance of writing has made me a grumpier reader.

For example: "The space station is made up of Russian and US segments, and there are modules from the European and Japanese space agencies too." It feels like this sentence is inserting some points, but is lacking in authorial intent. Is the intent to say the station is largely Russian and US, or to say the station has more than two partners? Probably an okay sentence, but still feels like a stone in the shoe.

steno132 about 1 hour ago |

It's really hypocritical for the US to cooperate with Russia on space, even take their help on repairing the ISS, only to sanction them and even their trading partners for buying their oil.

It's a hot take but I do think the US should be more appreciative of Russia's longstanding contributions to the ISS and other space projects of international cooperation and factor that into sanctions decisions. We do need their help as much as they need ours in space, and the fact that they are still helping us despite our treatment of them speaks volumes about their leaders' character.

kaicianflone about 5 hours ago |

I don’t have a dog in the fight but it’s super scary to think about for the astronauts and their families. This issue’s been going on for a while now. Surprised that there’s not more AI or robotics that could be utilized for such cases.

Rumors are that Elon gets spaceX to buy tesla so tele-operated Optimus robots do the hard space work from now on. Not a bad idea per se but I’m not educated on the topic. Curiosity has me asking if we really want humans to go to mars or in space at all.