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Microsoft, OpenAI lose fight to hide internal docs admitting scraping is theft (https://arstechnica.com)

53 points by pseudolus 2 days ago | 15 comments | View on ycombinator

fwlr 2 days ago |

    It is highly unusual that an end-product threatens the economic foundations of its essential suppliers, but that is the situation we have created for our LLM business
So they do know exactly what they’re doing.

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erelong 2 days ago |

> news site unhappy about their content being scraped

Not surprising, but calling it "theft" only makes sense within the IP paradigm (we might do better without IP)

reasonableklout 2 days ago |

Unfortunately, the Trump admin putting its thumb on the scale in favor of OpenAI makes it hard to imagine a positive outcome for the NYT and plaintiffs in this case. Despite the "the largest theft of labor in human history" according to Brent Hecht in the documents.

What's next for labor? What can we organize around politically in this new world? UBI or forcing the labs to open source everything?