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How SpaceX streamlined the Raptor engine (https://www.construction-physics.com)

229 points by JumpCrisscross 2 days ago | 98 comments | View on ycombinator

WalterBright about 21 hours ago |

According to Isaacson's biography of Musk, Musk relentlessly challenges the existence of every part in Tesla and SpaceX machines. He's willing to go too far, having to sometimes put a part back in.

Everything in the manufacturing process is also challenged to justify its existence.

This is how he managed to reduce the costs by 90%.

ecshafer 1 day ago |

I find it mind boggling that you can 3d print rocket engines. I thought that the standard line is that 3d printing metal wasn't developed enough for anything serious. Not a mechanical/materials engineer, but if you can 3d print rockets what's off the table? Jet Engines and that's about it I think?

From the article links, I am amused that SpaceX uses cybertrucks to tow their rocket engines around the grounds and not a normal cheaper truck. They also do it in a totally uncovered trailer, which must be good for the guys taking pictures for forums. But isn't that also good for guys taking pictures for competitors / Russians/ China?

thinkcontext about 22 hours ago |

> And the problems haven’t been completely ironed out: the first launch attempt of Starship’s flight test 13 was aborted automatically by the vehicle’s flight software at T-0 (right before liftoff) this past July when several Raptor 3 engines failed to start

And several engines failed to relight on the booster for flight 13. I believe ice in feed lines is viewed as the most likely cause.

avmich 2 days ago |

The thrust vector control (TVC) subsystem is usually considered a part of the engine. The major change the Soviet NK-33 underwent for a USA model was the addition of TVC, and the engine was named differently, so there are two engines, named differently, which mostly differ by the presence of TVC.

Raptors can be used without TVC. Be that by using differential thrust, or just not needing that - because rocket is controlled using other means, or other engines - it's possible. Tory Bruno specifically explained that he meant - among other things - that absence.

A picture of the engine working on the test stand can be that for the engine - or for the chamber, a significant component of the engine, with or without turbopumps involved.

advisedwang about 22 hours ago |

> A full-flow staged combustion engine is very complex, and prior to the Raptor only two had been built, neither of which successfully flew on a rocket.

Isn't the Space shuttle main engine / SLS engine a full-flow staged combustion engine?

fragmede 1 day ago |

3d printing metal has come a long way!

7e about 17 hours ago |

It’s extremely premature to celebrate something which hasn’t been shown to work in its intended application, nor at the original specs.

philipwhiuk about 24 hours ago |

> There turned out to be less detail available here than I hoped.

I'm surprised the author was surprised that a component of a multi-billion dollar company which is vital to it's future success in the industry and is covered by US regulations governing information export wasn't available as a cut-away diagram.

aaron695 1 day ago |

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