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Pentagon weighs pulling nearly a third of U.S. forces from Europe (https://www.nbcnews.com)

81 points by consumer451 2 days ago | 59 comments | View on ycombinator

anamax 2 days ago |

Every president after Clinton, and maybe him as well, (yes, including Obama) said that Europe had to become responsible for its defense. During that same time, Europe has insisted that it knows better than the US cowboys. And, Europe certainly doesn't like US global power projection.

So, why does Europe need/want the US in NATO?

It can't be resources - Europe is rich. More to the point, Europe has almost 10x Russia's GDP and about 2.5x the population.

So, unless Europe is worried about Germany, it can handle its defense.

Show the US how it's done.

anon48293 2 days ago |

That sounds like a brilliant idea. First get all your bases in the Middle East destroyed, then pull out of Europe. And there goes your global power projection.

defrost 2 days ago |

Tangentially related:

  House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) is being accused of running away from a bipartisan effort to hold an impeachment vote on Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. 

  Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), the Republican driver of that effort, accused House GOP leadership of sending lawmakers back to their districts early in order to avoid a vote on his resolution to impeach Hegseth.
~ https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/johnson-hegseth-midterms

logankeenan 1 day ago |

For better or worse, the defense the US provides will no longer be used as leverage for economic agreements across the EU and the Middle East.

pseudony 2 days ago |

Bye bye.

Would be great for us (Europeans).

On the other hand, were I an American interested in projecting power across the globe, not so much.

I wonder if it is more of this administration’s fantastic 5d chess. Amazing how quickly a bunch of infantile idiots can dismantle the incredibly powerful US empire of the 50’s and beyond.

henriquenunez 2 days ago |

Please do it. Really, do it. We dont need them.

MadrasTh0rn 2 days ago |

Elon Thiel Trump Vance Johnson Jeffries about to break NATO

They're also pushing dsa dems in the midterms where dsa's party position is to end nato.

To be clear the US dollar will never survive petrodollar and NATO dissolving.

The goon white house bending to russian demands needs to be removed

tornado134 1 day ago |

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