39 points by msotomorras 2 days ago | 16 comments | View on ycombinator
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jan_m_savage 1 day ago |
The name of the elephant (called FIL in Persian/Arabic) is not Indian (Indians call the elephant 'Haathi'). So is Vizier, a persian word (not queen!, it means something like minister or second in command after king).
In Russian, chess is called SHAKHMAT, but that is also derived from Persian: Shah means king, maat means defeat (this was somehow Anglified into checkmate).
The original word in Indian was chaturanga but that was a wholly different game-- a sort of predecessor. But so did the Chinese have a strategy board game which is also a far cry from chess as you know it now (and the Chinese "chess" still has remained the same as it was in ancient times).
The current, modern chess as you and I know it was invented in Saasaanid Persia, and the word used for it was SHATRANJ, as a sort of nod to Chaturanga, though the games are wildly different in every way except in intention (both are games of strategy).
According to Wikipedia: "During the Islamic Golden Age, many works on shatranj were written, recording for the first time the analysis of opening moves, game problems, the knight's tour, and many more subjects common in modern chess books. Many of these manuscripts are missing, but their content is known due to compilation work done by the later authors".
schoen 1 day ago |
https://www.gokyaysatrancvakfi.org.tr/en/chess-museum/
Somewhat unexpectedly, I thought it was one of the best museums I've ever visited in my life. It's the world's largest collection of chess sets, and is basically a museum of the chess set as an artistic genre, not of chess as a game. As you can see a bit from this site too, the artistic genre is quite broad and deep.
In the Gökyay Museum there were lots of questions raised by this genre:
* What historical events do people feel comfortable treating as distant history, versus something that you have to show respect or deference about?
* How would you make a chess set for blind players?
* Do chessboards have to be physically flat, not just topologically two-dimensional? Do they have to be horizontal rather than vertical?
* What events or activities can be metaphorically represented as a "battle"?
* How would different sculpture and painting traditions from around the world translate into a highly stylized chess set? How about different availability of materials?
* How do commercial marketing and pop culture leak into the comparatively culturally elite or refined realm of chess?
Anyway, it's just awesome and you should definitely go if you can.
djmips 1 day ago |
I just like elephants so this is fantastic.
eterm 1 day ago |
drayfield 1 day ago |
andrelaszlo 1 day ago |
Lio 1 day ago |
Every thing else is very pretty but feels a bit weird and off.
You can look at it but you wouldn’t want to play with it.
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helloplanets 1 day ago |
The obvious ones: in Western sets the king has a cross on top, and Islamic traditions only use abstract shapes. But I wonder if the "usual" designs aren't at least somewhat influenced by the English language specifically. Bishops have a stylized miter and Rooks are a tower with crenellations, but e.g. in Russian Bishop is "elephant" and Rook is "boat". Even in many other Western European languages "Bishop" as in the piece is not the same as bishop as in the religious office, e.g. "fou" in French, "alfil" in Spanish, "Laufer" in German.