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Turn off and restrict access to Apple Intelligence features on Mac (https://support.apple.com)

259 points by alwillis about 10 hours ago | 176 comments | View on ycombinator

userbinator 3 minutes ago |

"Turn off and restrict access to Apple Intelligence features on Mac"

That title in itself is a good indicator of how they think of consent. If instead it was:

"Turn on and enable access to Apple Intelligence features on Mac"

I suspect there would be far less anger from the users.

VCFundedGenYer about 9 hours ago |

I want the disk space taken from the models back.

I will never touch this garbage and would rather use the disk space I purchased to be used for my purposes, not the industry's pointless fad bubble endeavors.

zzyzxd about 9 hours ago |

I would never have figured out the toggle for writing tools is in `Settings -> Screen Time -> Content & Privacy Restrictions -> Siri -> Writing Assistance`

pdpi about 9 hours ago |

Clearly, nobody at Apple is thinking globally about this stuff.

If you have kids, "Screen Time" is a reasonable enough name for the place where parental controls live.

If you work under the assumption that AI features are OK in general, but potentially problematic around kids in particular, parental controls are a reasonable enough place to put these AI controls.

If you're not a parent, and have broader concerns about AI, you'd never even think of looking for these options where they are.

strictnein about 10 hours ago |

The thing that's weird about Apple's "Intelligence" features is how dumb they are. I messaged one of my kids yesterday that the pizza I made was ready and that I was out in the backyard with our dogs. Genmoji (or whatever it's called) then decided to suggest that I make a new Emoji with pizzas in a yard.

It's great that they're on device and all, but how incredibly stupid.

k310 about 10 hours ago |

This applies to MacOS 26.

On iOS 27, it looks like changing the settings for eight different apps taking 5 or 6 steps each.

https://archive.ph/AE72I#selection-712.0-731.53

Original: https://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-turn-off-apple-intelligenc...

wartywhoa23 about 9 hours ago |

Apple, we want one global killswitch and a way to free disk space occupied by unused models.

rramon about 1 hour ago |

MacOS GG didn't fit on my 16gb USB drives for a clean reinstall so I decided to upgrade from Tahoe and do a clean wipe afterwards, expecting that this leaves me with a clean GG install. But guess what, after wiping I was back on Tahoe after spending hours updating..

parable about 9 hours ago |

Is it possible to block Apple Intelligence from sending data over the Internet via Little Snitch? I would assume it is, but I'm not sure if anything significant has changed in macOS 27 that makes this impossible now. I don't really mind the local features - I'd rather they stay disabled, but it's not the end of the world - but I really don't want any data leaving my Mac.

canada_dry about 5 hours ago |

When I hear a discussion among peers about Apple AI and security I remind them of this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783112

Apple's reputation of being highly secure was shattered by Operation Triangulation. This complex back door allowed the hacker the ability to utilize the on-device AI to sift through data.

MadrasThorn about 8 hours ago |

Every time I turn on my M5 I have to manually turn apple intelligence off.

Clearly a poor buy on my part

variety8675 about 9 hours ago |

Hopefully someone will make a script or small app to disable all of this in one click

bityard about 6 hours ago |

I don't know this for sure, but I would also guess that simply not singing into your iCloud account on the Mac is easier and would work just as well.

(I have a Macbook that I use for various things. Other than lack of access to the Apple Store, I don't feel like I'm missing anything from not having an iCloud account.)

bflesch about 10 hours ago |

Funny how Apple has reached the crapware maturity level that Microsoft users are quite familiar with: After first boot, go through a long list of things to deactivate so that one can experience at least some feeling of agency and privacy when using your own hardware.

Lio about 8 hours ago |

It's great that you can turn all this off but why is it tucked away in Screen Time of all places?

What's the thinking behind that?

Mindwipe about 9 hours ago |

It's really frustrating that there is no ability to reclaim the drive space in MacOS 27, especially on Macbooks with M1 or M2 chips that can barely use the models. Another great sign of how the OS is deeply on fire IMO.

todfox about 9 hours ago |

The Write with Siri button that shows up whenever I select text is so obnoxious that I want to trash this fucking machine after 30+ years on the platform.

mococa about 6 hours ago |

I know macOS is a private OS, but what is inside the binary blob? Why my mail client think some emails are important but not are.

ivan888 about 7 hours ago |

How about removing the Siri button from the menu bar? This doesn’t seem possible anymore (it reappears some time after dragging it out)

beatrizmelo321t 35 minutes ago |

Mmg

chewbacha about 6 hours ago |

Oh wow, I need to customize every app to disable learning from that app?

Next phone is not gonna be an iPhone.

reaperducer about 9 hours ago |

Missing from Apple's list is the feature that suggest filenames.

At first, it was very cool and did a good job with plain text files, and even a PDF. Then it munged the names of several hundred files I was working with that was each named with a street address.

Finder → Settings → Suggest file names

JumpCrisscross about 9 hours ago |

Why did they nerf the keyboard interface to Siri?

Before, it was ⌘⌘ and you could type out something for Siri to fuck up. Now, we have to turn off “Hey Siri” and then click on the Siri app or meander our way through Spotlight.

I talk to my phone. I type to my laptop.

kittikitti about 5 hours ago |

The Log4J vulnerability stressed the importance of avoiding logging passwords and keys. I think the newest Log4J will be about privacy, where PII is regularly exposed and instantly searchable by anyone who wants to know. I actively disable Apple Intelligence because they share my data with numerous 3rd parties with self-certified privacy agreements every time I press a key on the keyboard.

iAMkenough about 10 hours ago |

Note that storage space taken up by local models is not reclaimed and remains dormant on your Mac until you're nearly out of space.

mmooss about 6 hours ago |

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater! Apple has some impressive privacy technology for Apple Intelligence - including significant open source disclosure for public verification. If you trash them with the rest of the AI vendors, you deincentivize privacy for Apple and for the rest of them.

They describe it in great technical detail here (Private Cloud Compute (PCC) seems to be the server side of Apple Intelligence):

https://security.apple.com/documentation/private-cloud-compu...

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At the heart of it, they provide these guarantees:

https://security.apple.com/documentation/private-cloud-compu...

* Stateless Computation: "Private Cloud Compute must use the personal user data that it receives exclusively for the purpose of fulfilling the user’s request. User data must never be available to anyone other than the user, not even to Apple staff, not even during active processing. And user data must not be retained, including via logging or for debugging, after the response is returned to the user."

* Enforceable Gaurantees: "Security and privacy guarantees are strongest when they are entirely technically enforceable, which means it must be possible to constrain and analyze all the components that critically contribute to the guarantees of the overall Private Cloud Compute system. For example, it’s very difficult to reason about what a TLS-terminating load balancer might do with user data during a debugging session, so PCC must not depend on such external components for its core security and privacy guarantees. ..."

* No Privileged Runtime Access: PCC is designed without privileged interfaces that might expose user data.

* Non-Targetability: PCC is designed to ensure that an attacker cannot target specific PCC users.

* Verifiable Transparency: "security researchers must be able to verify the security and privacy guarantees of Private Cloud Compute, and they must be able to verify that the software that’s running in the PCC production environment is the same as the software they inspected when verifying the guarantees."