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I don't want to read what you didn't write (https://blog.colinbreck.com)

455 points by mooreds about 6 hours ago | 154 comments | View on ycombinator

hatthew about 6 hours ago |

As I have been saying for years:

Writing is fundamentally the transfer of information from your brain to my brain. If you have 1000 bits of semantic information you want to transfer, you can't give 300 bits of semantic information to an LLM and have it fill in the remaining 700, because it doesn't know what those 700 bits are. If it's able to guess those 700 bits correctly, then they aren't true semantic information, and you really only have 300 bits you want to transfer. You might as well transfer those bits to me directly, rather than having the LLM add on an extra superfluous 700 bits that I then have to filter out.

zmmmmm about 6 hours ago |

It's funny, i push back on pull requests because there is too much description now - a 20 line change has pages and pages of generated description, rationalisation for why it is safe, defense of each design decision, analysis of risks and side effects. People are indignant, you're rejecting my change because there is too much documentation? And my response is, I don't have time to read it and you put me in the position where I can't afford not to - because approving the PR implies I did and accepted it. The investment to read all that for the value of a code change that I'm one prompt away from doing myself if I cared is just not high enough. So it's rejected.

blandcoffee about 6 hours ago |

I appreciate the direction of this article, and commend the author on publishing work, but the first sentence in the first paragraph is exactly what they lament.

> A pattern I see is that people use AI to build something new, then they use AI to retrospectively summarize what they have already built into a design document. Reading a document like this isn’t just difficult—it is punishing.

muzani about 4 hours ago |

There's a lot of misunderstanding here. The quality of LLM writing has not plateaued, it has dropped significantly. They've cut it to the point where people start noticing.

Do a search on "Claude Sonnet 4.5" on Reddit and you'll see lots of disappointed users [1]

If I could give out ratings,

Average human with a degree: 5/10

Sonnet/Opus 5: 2/10

GPT 6 Astra, 5.4 Sol: 3/10

Sonnet 4.6: 8/10

Claude Sonnet 4.5: 9/10

GPT 4o: 6/10

GPT 4.5: 10/10

GPT 3 Davinci (with a lot of coaching): 7/10

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/claudexplorers/comments/1ta6f9c/i_s...

addisonj about 4 hours ago |

On the note of imperfections... My preference is now strongly towards reading someone's stream of thought thrown down at speed over than that same stream of thought shat through the digestive track of an AI agent. At least that feels human.

To me, it also seems like they AI digestion is getting actively worse? As best as I can tell, all the agentic nature and reasoning for code is now making writing actively worse, as the agent pulls across your whole knowledge base and will take that one thought and eagerly join and context it thinks is relevant, with the reasoning spread throughout the page.

jmcgough about 4 hours ago |

"Reading a document like this isn’t just difficult—it is punishing."

I can't tell if this essay was written in earnest or as a subtle troll.

cjlm about 2 hours ago |

I wonder where this discourse is headed, we[0] keep making the same observations over and over again.

[0] myself included https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESbQHrOzAViiJizn8otPF3AAeE...

mrheosuper about 1 hour ago |

I'm kind of okay with reading something you don't write(entirely). But reading something that you even neither write nor read? waste of time.

davesque about 3 hours ago |

AI-generated writing does not bother me, unless it is intended as prose writing, where the flow communicates as much as the specific facts that are described. For technical writing, I usually just scan for important information anyway, and in that sense the only thing that bothers me about AI-generated writing is if it's too verbose and obscures the important information by leaning ineffectively on jargon and high-minded verbiage. I find that Claude Opus is very guilty of this, whereas GPT 5.6 variants are not.

oxplot 4 minutes ago |

Then don't fucking read it!

> I don't want to see gays holding hands.

Then don't fucking look.

estetlinus 13 minutes ago |

> Reading a document like this isn’t just difficult—it is punishing

I stopped reading here. I’ve become so sensitive to LLMism, I don’t want to go on. Tip; omit the needless ”it’s not X, it’s Y” and just write ”it’s Y”.

0c3ca83 about 1 hour ago |

It's funny to see this upvoted on a site where a huge portion of the front page content wasn't written by humans.

almondfestival about 5 hours ago |

this is intended as a silly observation and not an actual accusation, but for an article about not writing with AI, the following is one AI-ass sentence:

“Reading a document like this isn’t just difficult—it is punishing.”

bluegatty 22 minutes ago |

"The design document is no longer a proposal to build consensus, bring people along with you, and refine ideas through slow, deliberate thinking"

I'm sorry but that's the last thing (almost last) I want to read.

I want an 'excellent summary' of the design including motivations and concerns.

Yes - the AI is bad at that but hopefully it will get better.

Reason077 about 3 hours ago |

The irony is that this article reads a lot like it was written by AI.

idreyn about 6 hours ago |

These last few days, there has been a small stream of blogposts on HN expressing similar things, and I have enjoyed them all.

My question recently has been how to broach this subject with colleagues who really enjoy producing prose with AI. There is not yet a better cultural shorthand for this sort of thing than "slop" which is a harsh-sounding word and itself sort of a thought-terminating cliché. "I don't want to read what you didn't write" is maybe closer — but it needs a pithier and somewhat more encouraging encapsulation, like "I want to hear it from you".

Has anyone had good experiences setting up professional boundaries or team norms around AI-written docs?

xlayn about 4 hours ago |

Just imagine the quality of text we will have if we re-feed this into an llm a thousand times...

The juxta-positioning of the ambi-dextrous personification of the meta-sematicism is going to be both rich and soul transpiring....

It's gonna be basically a fingerprint in your soul, from my soul...

kingcauchy about 4 hours ago |

I don't disagree with the main points of the article. But I feel like soon with all the writing that's been hating on AI writing recently on HN, the LLMs are going to be really good at writing articles about how bad AI is for writing...

saulpw about 6 hours ago |

It's tricky because I don't want to write what no one is going to read (but that for some reason I'm required to write).

figarus314 about 5 hours ago |

The other comments here were written by LLMs that have a hard time detecting meta-irony.

tygon about 6 hours ago |

This sentiment gets echoed over and over. While I can certainly see the value in human-created creative works, if the subject is pure facts, there are only so many ways to state the facts without being caught in the weeds and missing your entire point.

Moreover, people are finding it hard to differentiate what is an is not AI-generated with newer models, often attributing original work with those of LLMs. It has just become an easy scapegoat for lazy comprehension and a desire to do less. You are jumping at AI boogeymen.

Just about the only thing here I can level with you on is, yes, AI is far from perfect and will continue to advance. Otherwise, so much of this reads as fruity prose to excuse apathy.

metalspot about 4 hours ago |

And I don't want to read the millionth iteration of some old man complaining about the kids these days, written by a human or not, yet here we are.

If you don't like AI slop. Don't read it. But wasting your time generating human slop to complain about AI slop is so obviously futile that it immediately identifies the writer as lacking the capacity for reason or emotional clarity, or merely seeking attention for their self-promotion with clickbait.

bathtub365 about 4 hours ago |

I’m fine with reading something you didn’t write if it has the information I need. I’m not fine with reading something you didn’t read and will just waste my time.

victor9000 about 2 hours ago |

I ask coworkers point blank to send me a non-llm version of their slop sagas. The initial exchange can be a bit awkward, particularly with new hires, but consistently asking for human prose has worked for me.

lazyownrt about 5 hours ago |

How do I type this character on my English keyboard? — also not reading what you didn't write.

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ummonk about 6 hours ago |

“Reading a document like this isn’t just difficult—it is punishing.”

I’d be curious whether the author composed this sentence himself or it was the output of AI. Personally I often find myself “it’s not X it’s Y” and then recoiling in disgust and rephrasing it simply because AI has made it so grating from overuse.

StanislavPetrov about 4 hours ago |

If it isn't worth the time for someone to write something themselves, it isn't worth my time to read it.

benatkin about 5 hours ago |

> I don’t want to live in a world where you use AI to summarize something important into unreadable text, and then I use AI in an attempt to decipher it. I want to hear you, imperfections and all.

It doesn't fundamentally change the equation if I use AI to prepare and then write it myself. If I'm using AI effectively, it's likely that you won't be able to tell.

This sort of post is increasingly coming off as high and mighty, where the user thinks they are being exceptionally creative and other people who are using AI are using it mindlessly.

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somewhereoutth about 5 hours ago |

Also, writing, indeed any making activity, forces you to think clearly. Often that is the deepest purpose of prose, even code - forcing the author to confront the problem and sharpen their own understanding of the world we share. That it then communicates something to another person (or to a machine), is a happy bonus.

pryelluw about 2 hours ago |

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pushpendraw about 4 hours ago |

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lazyownrt about 5 hours ago |

How do I type this character on your English keyboard? — also not reading what you didn't write.